Yeah when I put in the initial img tags it didn't work so I made the url. Also someone else posted that apocalypse thing and said DHM had made it. Segnin at the GW Rare Games topic.

Hey DHM, did you make another game before Dragon Heart/Starless Umbra or is this just a tech demo you made?

Evidence!

BTW why can't images be shown on here?

I talk to him occassionally. His real life just was getting too busy for him to keep on working with the game.

Ive seen these facesets before, I think I almost used them once. There well made that's for sure.

Wilfred The Hero & Grave Spirit are also good games comparable to Starless Umbra, Gens 2 is an overlooked gem in my mind. Don't know if any of you guys have played that game, DHM surely has though and might agree.

A game as big as this, how do you even remember these things haha. I always found that a problem when getting further in a game, the little things in terms of plot.

I could make a prettier game then SU, probably not better though haha. Sup DHM!

Anyways I would consider a few games out there on par or better then SU right now. Mainly..

Sunset Over Imdahl - Amazingly beautiful and well thought out game.

A Blurred Line - Honestly don't think any Rpgmaker game will come out to make me personally think it's better then it. It blew me away.

The Most Stupidest Game Ever Re-Duh - This game actually made me laugh at times and was overall a pretty good game. I love the premise too, some guy gets beat up by his new house owner(Who happens to be a priest) so he goes around the world to find people to join him in beating him up to get his house back.

Legion Saga III - before you start laughing.. It was the first ever rpgmaker game I played, so nostalgia is more the reason then quality in this case.

Too Animu for my tastes but very well done though.